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+From: "Per M. Hansen" <perhans@indexdata.dk>
+To: Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com>
+CC: Sebastian Hammer <quinn@indexdata.dk>
+Subject: Re: Target classifications
+Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:18:09 +0200
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+
+Mike Taylor skrev:
+> Per M. Hansen writes:
+> > > You can now see the work-in-progress at
+> > > http://irspy.indexdata.com/
+> >
+> > Look great, Mike.
+> >
+> > I have a few comments:
+>
+> Thanks for these.
+>
+> > * In the Add target screen I had envisioned a lot more fields for
+> > entering data about the server. First of all we need a Name field.
+> > Second it think we should have a section with additional info
+> > about the target, like URL to hosting org. Email to technical
+> > contact (that is the mail we use to send mails to when we
+> > encounter a problem with the server), Username and password, Type
+> > of library (probably a dropdown with, Academic, Public, Corporate,
+> > Special, National, Education, Other) and Country.
+>
+> Yep, most or all of that fits into the ZeeRex record. The current
+> version doesn't have any of it, because it's using the IRSpy ability
+> to quietly add a new record as a side-effect of running the tests on a
+> not-previously-known target; but when I do the proper "Add a target"
+> page, it'll have a lot more spaces. Also, the option of uploading a
+> pre-made ZeeRex record.
+>
+> > * In the display of the targets you should have room or at least
+> > some way of showing this additional info. Maybe some kind of mouse
+> > over or popup.
+>
+> Hadn't thought of those approaches -- I was just going to have a
+> "[Details]" link. IIRC, mouseover is easy to do with compliant XHTML
+> (which is what I use anyway) so maybe I'll try it that way.
+>
+> > * In the target display, eg. under R the display of non ASCII
+> > characters goes wrong.
+>
+> Oh *%^$! Freakin' character-sets! :-)
+>
+> Thanks, I'll look into that.
+>
+> > Then I have some questions:
+> >
+> > * How are you going to handle targets that has (permanent) errors?
+> > Will they be marked or excluded from the list?
+>
+> Open to discussion. The first question I suppose is what would count
+> as "permanent" -- no response for six months?
+>
+In Z-Spy we contact the administrator if the target is down 3 times in a
+row, which in praxis means 3 days in a row, and that has worked well
+over the years. This has to be configurable of course. In Z-Spy, we do
+not fall back to administrator/hostmaster/info@domain, but that is nice
+idea.
+> > * How are you going to handle email notification of technical
+> > contact persons with targets that has permanent errors?
+>
+> Easily enough for targets whose ZeeRex records have a contact email in
+> them! For others, I guess falling back to <hostmaster@domain> is the
+> best we can do automatically?
+>
+> > * Have you thought about a statistics page like in Z-Spy?
+>
+> Patience, my pretty!
+>
+Ok, just checking :-)
+> > * When added a target, can you handle targets with multiple
+> > databases? How do you write the database names in the
+> > inputbox?
+>
+> In ZeeRex terms, each target is a single database -- so a Z-server
+> that has multiple databases would register each of them as a separate
+> target that just happens to have the same host and port as its
+> buddies.
+>
+Sounds OK, but wont you get the same problem as Z-Spy, where it is very
+hard to display this target as one server with multiple databases under,
+as in one line in the display? Wouldn't you need to have each database
+on a new line and the user would then have to discover by her self that
+say line 5, 6 and 7 is actually one server with different databases.
+> > * When adding a new target do you have a check if the target is
+> > there already, maybe registered with the IP instead of the
+> > hostname?
+>
+> Nope. Do you think I should?
+>
+Yes, otherwise the database will get full of doubles.
+> > * Should we get a designer to give the site an overhaul?
+>
+> Given how far over time (and so over budget!) we already are, I
+> wouldn't have thought so. But once it's all working functionally, we
+> can revisit that and figure out what we want to do with the cosmetics.
+>
+You are probably right.
+> (What's wrong with it, anyway? Does it need a Hot Chick in the banner
+> area at the top?)
+>
+My experience is that a nice design is essential for how the customer
+evaluates the software. If it looks nice the software is also more
+likely to be evaluated as high quality. Your design is not ugly or
+anything but is obvious that is not something that has been spend a lot
+of time on, but lets keep it that way for the time being.
+
+--
+Per
+> _/|_ ___________________________________________________________________
+> /o ) \/ Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com> http://www.miketaylor.org.uk
+> )_v__/\ "In JP III, scientists recreate the actual dino killer meteorite
+> from glassy fragments found near somewhere difficult to spell
+> in South America - evil bad people launch the meteor into space
+> and disaster ensues" - Derek Tearne
+>
+>
+>
+
+
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